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MessageSujet: what is Jesus's true Name   Lun 12 Oct - 10:41

Is Jesus' name really Yeshua?

A lot of people, including some Messianic Jews (Jews who believe Jesus is the Messiah), will call Jesus by a different name: Yeshua (Hebrew יֵשׁוּעַ). They say that Yeshua is the Jewish name that Jesus would have been called by those who knew Him. Some messianics and other groups say that Yeshua is Jesus' real name and that the name "Jesus" is wrong. Others say that it is okay to use either one. But then again, there are those who say that the word, "Jesus," is pagan in origin and should not be used at all. And if that weren't enough, some say that "Jesus" is derived from "Zeus" and really means "hail Zeus." With all these possibilities is there a real answer to what was the Messiah's real name? Yes, there is. It is found in the New Testament.

The New Testament was written in Greek. If there were any original documents of the New Testament written in Hebrew, we don't have them. At best, some theorize that there might have been a Gospel or two written in Hebrew. If that is the case, there is no way to know. The fact is we don't have any Hebrew manuscripts. We only have Greek ones from that period of time. Since what we do have is the Greek Manuscripts, it is from them that we need to find out what the Apostles wrote about Jesus. In other words, we need to make a case out of what we do have--not what we don't have. Doing a computer search in the Greek New Testament, the word, "Jesus," occurs over 900 times. Following is a chart that lays this out.

What does the Greek actually say?
The Greek word for Jesus is Iησοῦς. It is pronounced as "eeaysoos." When "eeaysoos" was transliterated into the English long ago, it became Jesus--the term we use in English today.

Some say that if we don't pronounce Jesus' name properly (either as Yeshua and or Eeaysoos), then we are in sin and serving a false god but that accusation cannot be made from Scripture. It is not the pronunciation of a word that makes us Christian or not. It is receiving the Messiah, God in flesh, by faith that makes us a Christian. Likewise, must we say "theos" when saying "God" since that is how the word is pronounced in Greek? Or what about when we call Jesus the "Savior" as in Phil. 3:20, must we pronounce the word as it is in Greek (sotare), or is it okay to use the English word "savior?" The entire New Testament was written in Greek, and the word Jesus is the word that is used. It is not the Hebrew יֵשׁוּעַ which is Yeshua. So, it is simple. Jesus is properly called Jesus.

Matt. 1:21, "And she will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for it is He who will save His people from their sins."
Mark 1:1, "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God."
Acts 4:10-12, "let it be known to all of you, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead--by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11 “He is the stone which was rejected by you, the builders, but which became the very corner stone. 12 “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved."
Rom. 1:1, "Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God." Heb. 2:9, "But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone." Rev. 1:1, "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must shortly take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John." As you can see, the New Testament uses "Jesus" as the name and not a Hebrew name. For people to say that Jesus' real name is Yashua or Yahusha or Yahushua, etc., is Jesus' real name is just a statement of pushing an agenda and not believing the New Testament text.
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MessageSujet: Re: what is Jesus's true Name   Lun 12 Oct - 10:45

yes, but this is for the english language, what about all the other languages? the english Bibles, say Jesus and JESUS CHRIT, but, those are not the only Name, as plenty of others Names, tranlations, have been used for Jesus Name, in all langages, example JESUS , JESUCRISTO in spanish, Jésus, Jésus Christ, in french, ect, so hey caln also say that Jesus is not his real name, for His real name is JESUCRISTO or Jésus et I so this is odd: how could we have transalted JESUS name in many manners instead of one? for example : JESUS for all languages, then people would think, yes, this is JEUSS 's true name, but as there are too many translations of JEUSS name, people don't know the transaltion of which language we have to use, the english one, theportuguese one ect! at least if we call JESUS YESHUA, its only this word: YESHUA, only 1 name, for all the people of the world , that makes sense, but does anyone in this planet, have the proof, that people really called JESUS JESUS? or YESHUA or WITH any other name?
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MessageSujet: Re: what is Jesus's true Name   Lun 12 Oct - 10:47

http://christianity.about.com/od/faqhelpdesk/f/jesusoryeshua.htm
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MessageSujet: Re: what is Jesus's true Name   Lun 12 Oct - 10:49

it's true but it's a ery good article, but, any wicked human controlled by satan, working for satan, could have put JESUS & JESUS CHRIST, instad of YESHUA, and people who stay informed with alternative news, have discovered that JESUS true name is YEHSUA or YEHSUA HA MASCHIACH I or it's true, JESUS, JESUS CHRIST, are JESUS real names, and humans are deceiveing Christians, telling them that YESHUA , YESHUA HA MASCHIACH are JEUSS real names, and have never been ? because GOD, did YOU let them change YESHUA's name by JESUS, JESUS CHRIST, CHRIST JESUS, the CHRIST ect ? in Your Holy Bible? or YOU told the to write JESUS & JESUS CHRIST, as the real names for Your Saint Son Jesus, and people invent that YESHUA is JESUS name ? or YOU Holy GOD, wanted people to write YESHUA HaMaschiach & Yeshua, but people deceived by the beast, have written Jesus, Jesus Christ,

if the Bible was written in 1 language only: greek, why the entire world didn't keep the greek name, so one name for all the living inhabitants of this world, so that all Christians living in this planet, would call Jesus with that one only name? that would' ve bmade stff easier and would've made sense

the proble is that we are reading °° translations °°, of the original Bible, not the original Bible ♫ so if we had the original version, if every single Christians was only studying the original version , and let's suppose this version has never been corrupted by the devil, then we would all be rading, trusing only in the °° truth °°, no lies , but where is this version ? ? ? ?

so that we would all be calling Jesus by His real Holy Name ♫ are translations of His Name evil ? do we sin by calling Jesus with His translated Names, in any language ? GOD, must we use the translation of our own respective langage, or of any language, like JESUCRISTO, help me ? for example, the spanish word for Jesus ?

the problem is alway the same: the entire human race deceived by satan, in too many ways, living in his mensongère reality ♫ so as the rule is so often this one : if the biggest part of the human race believes in one stuff, then it's satan's lie, if a minue part beleives in one stuff, then it's truth ♫ the biggest part of the human races beleives Jesus name is Jesus, so they're wrong ? the minute part of the human race beleives YESHUA is JESUS name so they're right ?

for satan deceiveith too much, lies too much ♫ he even dirttied the Holy Bible!!! putting his lies his stuff inside!!!! so it's half Holy hal unholy, GOD Almighty? so what if satan has invented the different supposed names of Jesus? to confuse us, so that we don't even know if we're putting our faith in an evil spirit or in the true Jesus, praying to evil spirits or to Jesus, for we do not know which name is the Holy one!!! as satan has changed GOD's name, so Christians are confused about this < is it jeova jéovah, yahweh yhavé ect, so saan has maybe changed also Jesus names for he gives us plurality of choices to chsoe among several names, so that we get deceived, so that w choose to call JESS with one of the false names that satan has invented ♫ GOD please we pray for YOU to give us isdom, spirit of discernement, help us to recognize what is satan's lies in this matter, and what is Your truth dear GOD , in Jesus Name, Amen ♫
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